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“Strings Attached”
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EP.46: “Strings Attached” (FEAT. HUNTER RAMSTEDT)
HUNTER RAMSTEDT is back on Unfit For Radio with JAYKERS—but this time, he’s not calling in from Washington. He’s in the UFR studio, guitar in hand, ready to take over the conversation.
You may remember HUNTER from Episode 19, “Tune Talkin’,” where JAYKERS, RYAN, and HUNTER talked music, faith, creativity, songwriting, and the journey behind becoming an artist. This time, HUNTER returns for a much more personal and musical conversation.
HUNTER joins JAYKERS and RAY for an extended acoustic session covering his journey as a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and live performer, what has changed since Episode 19, health scares involving his singing and vocal cords, the stories behind his music, songwriting and creativity, performing live, faith, inspiration, and everything in between.
And yes… HUNTER ACTUALLY PLAYS.
HUNTER shares samples from his upcoming unreleased single “Leaving It In Yesterday,” talks about his musical journey and creative process, and gives listeners a glimpse into the stories and experiences behind his music. RAY also creates two original limericks specifically for HUNTER, because apparently that’s what happens when you put RAY, a microphone, and a guitarist in the same room.
JAYKERS and RAY also pull back the curtain on the people and work behind Unfit For Radio and how the podcast continues to evolve.
From original music and acoustic guitar to personal stories, faith, humor, memories, spontaneous conversation, and classic UFR moments, “Strings Attached” feels less like a structured interview and more like hanging out with three friends while the music is turned up.
HUNTER loves UFR and he’s already looking forward to coming back for Season 4 soon.
IN THIS EPISODE:
• HUNTER returns to UFR
• A follow-up to Episode 19, “Tune Talkin’”
• HUNTER previews his upcoming unreleased single, “Leaving It In Yesterday”
• HUNTER opens up about health scares and his journey with his voice and vocal cords
• Live acoustic guitar and original music
• HUNTER’S journey as a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and performer
• Songwriting and the creative process
• Faith, inspiration, and musical influences
• Stories from performing and creating music
• Two original RAY limericks written for HUNTER
• JAYKERS and RAY discuss the people and work behind UFR
• HUNTER talks about returning to UFR for Season 4
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Did you ever listen to episode 19 with Hunter Ramsstead? I think it was called uh Toon Talking.
SPEAKER_02Well, of course I listened to every episode. Whether I remember them all now, that's a different subject. But yeah, I remember Hunter's incredibly talented, if I remember correctly. Basically a walking energy drink. That's correct.
SPEAKER_03Well, he's back. And this time he's actually in the studio. He came all the way from Washington just to hang out with us. Now that sounds exciting. It's been a long time. Right, sure has. I'm excited. Let's go. Welcome to Unfit for Radio with Jakers. I am Jakers. And I'm super excited for this episode because uh it's going to be one of those uh musical episodes. And Ray doesn't usually hang around for this one, but he's hanging around too. And we've got Hunter Ramstead with a guitar here. Need I say any more? Uh yeah, I do. I forgot. I gotta officially welcome Ray, the senior star of UFR. Mr. Ray, thank you for being here and hanging out with us.
SPEAKER_02Well, music isn't exactly my forte, as we all know, but it's always a pleasure being here in the UFR studios. I really do look forward to this part of my life. Don't tell my wife. But honestly, I think she already knows and threw in the towel a long time ago.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think uh I think Linda and Stephanie both think we're crazy. But Hunter is here and let's enjoy some great music. Let's do this.
SPEAKER_02Today we're welcoming back a familiar face to the show, Hunter Ramstead, who you may remember from episode 19, Toon Talkin'. Since we last talked, Hunter has continued building his journey as a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and a live performer. He's been writing music since he was young, almost since he was two. Has written more than 200 songs, and has performed everywhere from local stages to major sporting events. His music pulls from a wide range of influences, including his faith, country, blues, rock, pop, and singer-songwriter styles. He's also released music on his own, including If There's a Chance and Underrated. Available on Apple Music, Spotify, or wherever you may live. Those are good ones. But today we're going beyond the music on a recording. Hunter actually brought the guitar with him. So we're going to talk songwriting, performing his musical journey, what's changed since episode 19, and of course, we're going to hear him play. Welcome to episode 46, Strings Attack.
SPEAKER_03Let's do it. I'm super excited, ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome Hunter Ramstead. Hunter, welcome back, buddy. It's great to have you here. Thank you for coming all the way from Washington. I can't believe that. I think you're our our uh our furthest travel guest so far. How have you been since our last episode?
SPEAKER_01I'm good, man. Things are picking up and life's life's great. It's chill. It's fast at the same time. All the boys are good. Family's good. Music's good. Music's getting better. That's exactly what it's supposed to be. You know what I mean? Did you miss Arizona? Oh, yeah. Just being out here underneath the palm trees, you know? You get your you get your friends around you. You get to be a part of the podcast again. But it's good to see. It's really good to see you guys. I was I was I was stoked to be here. That's great.
SPEAKER_03Um, so uh you brought your guitar, you uh have you been working on any songs? What what um what's new since our last uh visit? I heard that you had some medical issues. Did you want to share any of that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, totally. Okay, so it's kind of wild actually. But back on July 1st, I checked myself into an ENT and ear, nose and throat. Ear nose and throat, yeah. And basically, um, you know, they did the whole thing where they shove a camera down your throat and look at it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, endoscopy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So and that was because I couldn't hit a C to save my life, like a regular old C, right?
SPEAKER_03Do they um when the camera's in your throat, do they like try to have you sing and hit those notes?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so they really do. Yeah, they had me sing on an they had me so they had me sing on an eval, you know, just normal E, right? And uh it they were watching the vibrations or whatever, and then they were able to take pictures and there there was a little bump on my left vocal cord, and what it was doing, it was preventing them from closing all the way, right? And it was messing up kind of the vibrations, and the other way that that affects me is it prev it forces, I guess it opens it up too much for air to pass through when it's not supposed to. Oh my god. Yeah, so we're working through that, we're making progress, which is good, and that was a big thing. I was like so down in the dubs for a little bit, I was like, when am I gonna get my voice back? And then I talked to um my choir director, and he was like, just celebrate the wins, celebrate prod progress, and move move forward from there. So that's kind of been what's going on with my actual voice, but that hasn't stopped me from like writing music or anything. Huh. And I'm still able to sing, but not even close to the way I used to be able to. Oh, I'm sorry. Unfortunate, but I mean, in time it'll get it'll get better. We'll pray for you. We'll keep praying for you. Thank you. Yeah, in time it'll get better.
SPEAKER_03So um, so you had your uh your endoscopy, did they did they find anything troubling or is that still under investigation?
SPEAKER_01No, so it's c so it looks like it's something called a leukoplakia, which means white patch. And we had tossed around some other scary words. Um, you know, ruled out a lot of things. It's not nodes, it's not anything worse than nodes, if you know what I mean. Okay. Um, but it there is a white patch that looks like a kind of a callus on it. Um, did you see pictures? Yeah, you showed I did show you the picture. Yeah, you showed, yeah. Yeah, so it it's pretty it's not fun.
SPEAKER_03It looks torn up because you showed two pictures, one's of a regular vocal cord and then the other one's of your vocal cord, and yeah, it looks like there's severe damage, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. That's why they tell you to make sure you're taking good care of your voice, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Ouch. Make sure you sing within range. Yeah, yeah. So um so you've been uh you've been writing new songs, you got new music. Have you um you you just recently uh published, what was it, underrated?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_03How did that come out? How'd how'd your uh fan base take that?
SPEAKER_01Dude, so people really like it. I'm getting a lot of really good feedback. I thought they would. I mean, when you put it on here, I tune talking was awesome. People really dig it, and it's cool because I'll get somebody like texting me out of the nowhere, out of the blue, and just being like, hey, um, we just like listen to this. I even had somebody tell me that they wanted to do like an EDM remix to it at one time. No way, yeah. Um my my friends and family all love it. Um, people that you know find out about me in whatever capacity. Um, I always get like good feedback on that song specifically, you know. And the way Ryan did that was was great. Oh, you guys put in some work, yeah. Yes, we did.
SPEAKER_03Ryan Chandler and and Hunter Ramstead put in some work on that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was really fun. We got to meet some really cool people who we obviously had on the project. And uh I love Strat Stravs, yeah, Andrew Stravs. He's sick, he's a sick drummer, probably one of the best drummers. Yeah, Camp. Yeah, yeah. Camp, he's great. Yeah. Um so right now Ryan and I are working on uh some other stuff too. That was another thing that brought me down here too. Yeah, we're gonna be doing some some demos of some of the new stuff. Sweet. Um we're doing uh we're gonna put vocals on an old project we kind of swept under the mat a long time ago, which is cool. No way. Um we'll finish that.
SPEAKER_03So how long you and Ryan actually been working together?
SPEAKER_01We've been working together for probably about two years. Okay. Two years. And like we've we started out taking baby steps and started taking bigger leaps, and you know, kind of did it that way. But he's like such a good friend. He's such a great friend, and it's great to work with somebody that you really care about and love, you know? Yeah, um, but he's the man and he's really good. I know he's gonna go places. He just got married too. Yes, he did. Yeah, he's got a lot of things coming.
SPEAKER_03He's he just got married. He's he you know, he he's got his whole life ahead of him. He's a hundred percent, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's great. Um, he's so he's the probably one of the busiest people I've ever met. And he he's so low key about his name, you know what I mean? And he's a very chill guy, yeah. Yeah, super humble and just like insanely good at recording. He did really good when he was in recording school too. And yeah, crass. Crass. Yeah, crass. He did really good in recording school.
SPEAKER_03I know a few people that's gone through there and and multiple years. Like, I've known people that's gone through there in the 90s, people that's gone through there recently, and they talk about like how the program's changed, but overall, like every single person that's gone there in the last 30 years, great school.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I've heard it's pretty cutthroat. Uh you know what I mean? I've heard it's pretty cutthroat.
SPEAKER_03You have to want to be there, like you can't screw around.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there I'm pretty sure I heard a story about one of the teachers being like, um, welcome to the first day of not making it in the music industry or something. Like, yeah, it's like, hey, if you um if you want to become something, you won't. That's how they started that, or so I I don't know. I don't want maybe that's just hearsay, but it still sounds it's probably happened, yeah. Oh, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure. So um you uh you you've released anything else recently besides uh underrated, or is that just the we announced um like the beginning of our campaign for leaving it in yesterday?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So leaving it in yesterday. Oh leaving it in yesterday, yeah. That's a that's a fun song. Yeah, it's cool. There's gonna be a whole campaign about that song. Um that song meant a lot to me too. I I'm I wrote that last year during like a a tough time and um it ended up being like this total pop song, you know?
SPEAKER_03I think it's super you know what? So you said this new song that you're working on. You're you're you're gonna give us a little sample of it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm totally down. It um yeah, I'll give you the second verse to see.
SPEAKER_03When when do you plan on like actually releasing it so we can look forward to this?
SPEAKER_01I want to do it. My my whole goal with it is to get the campaign started like this week for marketing. Yeah, I really want to get started on the campaign for it this week, and then probably about three months from now, I'd say it'll be out. But I mean the it things speed up all the time, so it it goes. So around Christmas time or like January? I'll put an official I'll I it'll it'll I'm saying closer to maybe January. Gotcha. Maybe January. It'll be we'll probably just depending on the feedback. We're not gonna hold you to it. We're just trying to no, I hear you. I mean it just based on the feedback, it'll we'll see. Yeah. And then we'll probably put it out a uh like a full-on release date in like the next month or something like that. Sweet. You know what I mean? You gotta do it, you gotta do it that way. Yeah, what I mean. Yeah, so a certain way you have to present it for sure. But it's done, and I love it. I love it. It's because I can't wait. Here, check this out.
SPEAKER_00You can tell your friends I vote for you. And it's been all letting it go. You don't need a you don't need a speed up. You come up with the speed on the open at the point. Let's go just a bit to a five speed good. Let's start off this two space at the spot. Leave it yesterday.
SPEAKER_01And then we'll zoom part. This is my favorite part of the song right here. I won't I won't play the whole part, but this is the my favorite part of the whole song.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know I've got a fast to believe it. I said two free one day. I just want one thing.
SPEAKER_01Dude, I like that. So what inspired it? The song is inspired by um, it's like if let's say you're in a relationship that you know maybe it was a little bit over your head and you just kind of want to dip your toes back in it for like just a moment. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um see what it was like again. Yeah, totally. So that's where that song came from. And it came from a real place too. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like I I wrote it in like 15 minutes. I'm not even kidding. Yeah, dead serious. I literally freestyled it. Maybe 15 minutes is a little bit of a stretch, but yeah, I think you get the point. I wrote it really, really fast. So that one was great. Um a lot of good music came out of that season for sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A lot of good music came out of that season. Um and uh I've never written from a place of like heartbreak before, you know? No. I've never written for I had never experienced that in my entire life. You know, I never really allowed myself to experience that. So it was all raw emotions, yeah. Totally, 100%. Um you know, I I watched like a podcast about some other writer that talked about like writing from a place of like heartbreak, and it was like a lot of those writers will kind of get stuck in it, you know what I mean? But in my in kind of my eyes, I used it to kind of channel this element of creativity that I had never really had. And then, you know, kind of things kind of sped up and moved on to different seasons of life, and I created completely different. No, no, you can't you can't allow yourself to just like stay there, fall down and spiral or anything.
SPEAKER_03Just depressing music.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. But I love how it's a happy song, it sounds really happy, it does, so it's got a good little happy side to it, and um but so many good, so many good songs came out of that season. But um, I hope I never have to write from that place again, but you know, as a joke, but um That's understandable though. Lots of good music came from that. Um Ryan and I are starting to work on some new cool, like poppier country elements. I really like pop country a lot. I'm kind of in that phase, but um I've gotten the chance to sit down and write a lot of soft stuff too. So yeah, I guess the long story longer. Oops, long story longer.
SPEAKER_03It's your podcast, you can talk what you want.
SPEAKER_01Long story longer. Um you know, nothing has stopped me from really writing at all. I've been writing, been writing the whole time, whether it's injury or tough seasons. Um I've had a lot of really good times too. Everything inspires you. Everything, yeah. The good, the bad, the ugly. Oh, totally. Most of my writing comes at like seven in the morning, and I'll pick it up later. You know what I'm saying? Like you go on a drive. My morning Starbucks run was a a morning run to the gas station, grabbing an energy drink, and then going back to the house. You know what I'm saying? So it's like though that's where my ideas come from. I always go down to the beach to go on little walks and stuff too in the morning. I just try to get my my feet moving in the morning. I feel like that's a healthy thing. And uh, I always just write so much stuff, or I think of so many ideas on those walks, or you know, I'll go to the driving range very infrequently, but every once in a while I'll go to the driving range and come up with an idea there. I came up with uh a really funny idea. Oh, how did it go? It was uh um I wish I had brought my title book, but I came up with this really cool golf-related title, you know? I don't know, it's so random. You it kind of goes everywhere anyway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So uh you're always creative, you uh you you always uh have your mind, you know, creative doing something. Um you you said that you just created a little tune the other day on your guitar. Yes. Which one is it? The one that you just played a second ago.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, totally. Your mind is everywhere. I love it. Like you said earlier, Ray. You're calling me a a walking energy drink.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what you said in tune talking, and you are like if if if you're ever around you, even just listening to the episode back, like you can feel the the energy coming from you. Not not just like physical energy, but you know, the passion. Yeah, everything behind it. Like you you can really feel it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. Um, I wrote so this song, I'll give you a snippet. Yeah. Let's go. Um Let's hear this guitar. Dude, the guitar.
SPEAKER_03The first uh acoustic guitar in EFR.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah? Oh, that rhymes. So this came from a title that I had come up with back in college. I had sat on a title for like three years, and I didn't actually write the song until three years later. No way. Dead serious. And uh this one it was Who Should Come First Goes Last. And it's a it's a Jesus song, you know what I mean? It's like when you put Jesus last, put him in backs put him in the back seat, you know? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So this is where like he's not the uh pilot anymore, he's the co-pilot.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And maybe even worse than that, maybe he's sitting, you know, in economy boarding or whatever. You put him in business class. Yeah, so here let's let's see how this goes. Can you hear this? I can hear okay.
SPEAKER_00We saw him cry when he got on the baptism. Turn from all of his things. He served his church on Sunday, but his bottles just bottle turns to a model. And he saw it on the sale. Like a fool is a dog who returns to his mom. Goes back up when he eats it. Proper chapter 26, but it barely never read it. He burns dirty breeze with cigarettes, for his last and on the last track. So the past rose back on the edge of the last for you to have a home eating me song. Don't be long in the back. Yeah, that's how we learned what happens when you should come first goes last.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sometimes you forget the words too, but I think you get the point. That's really cool. I like that. It's a deep song, man. It's really deep. Um, I don't know where the idea came from, but the title was originally something I had imagined would go in a completely different direction.
SPEAKER_03What was the title of that one?
SPEAKER_01Who should come first goes last? Yeah. Who should come first goes last? Yeah. Maybe throw some auto-tune on that or something. Just kidding.
SPEAKER_03You're judging yourself too much, man. You sound great.
SPEAKER_01No, that's it. I like that one. Yeah, that was uh I wrote that like probably three months ago. Um and it was probably one in the morning.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Sometimes it it just comes out of you, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So when it hits you, you just have to, you know, you have to take it and let it be. You can't just sleep through it and be like, oh, I'll write it down in the morning.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I feel like with songwriting, you kind of have to let the song write itself, and it's kind of your job to steer it in the right direction, I think. You can't just like force the idea. You have to let it go where it wants to go, but you have to kind of tame it. Yeah, you have to tame in the i tame it, right? I don't know. That's the way I kind of think about it. That's very interesting. I just I never really write this I never really think that I'm writing the song. I just kind of I think I know where it wants to go and just let it do it. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03That's interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was thinking from the last episode how talented you are with guitar, and I think you do keyboard and bass and you know, all this other stuff you might even do drums and all this stuff. How does one person have so much talent within themselves? It it I mean, just just one instrument to me it it overwhelms me how some people are able to play and you sound Like you can do a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_01So I can't drum yet. I can't. That's the only one I I think that I'm a s I'm such a strings guy. I've always played the strings. And uh you kind of pick up on what you know well, I didn't even know that God had given me this, that it was something from God, you know, um, until late, till like high school, but I had been a musician when I was a when I was younger, like just playing on rock band and stuff like that, and I had good pitch. And uh I figured out how to move my fingers and I got pretty coordinated, and I just kind of kept on going. And uh and then uh just kept practicing and just eventually things kind of fell into place, and then you know, one event turned into another, one solo turned into another, and then next thing you know, you're you know, doing it as a job, you know. That was more so last year, but it's still like the most important thing to me, I think. You know, I uh in Peter it says like you know, lean into your gifts that God gives you, and yeah, I guess I just try to lead into it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02And then not just by playing, but you also learn to write. And that that just I don't know. It to me that's even more special talent that's beyond anything I can even imagine. How somebody can sit down and write a song and not just music, but you put the words to it, and uh yeah, I yeah, it just blows me away, really.
SPEAKER_01I don't even know where that started. I think that um in my eyes, like when you were a musician, that just meant like you were made to create, I think. Like I you know what I'm saying? Wow, like I'm gonna preach it.
SPEAKER_02I never thought of that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because I know some musicians that are v extremely talented, but they don't really create themselves, they just kind of do it, and not that they're doing it wrong, it's they're just gifted in so many different ways. I know people that are extremely talented guitar players, singers, but they don't make any of their own music.
SPEAKER_02Like studio musicians, they come in and they do what they need to, but they don't create anything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I also know songwriters that are super, super creative, but don't necessarily have the the the abilities. Okay, sing perform some of the biggest songs that are written come from people that aren't like the best singers in the world. Definitely, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Definitely, like uh, I don't know if this is a There's a lot of writers out there that can't sing, but are great writers. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_01I want that job.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm just kidding. Um You said that in the last episode. You said that you'd like to just basically be on the beach somewhere and write out a bunch of songs for people.
SPEAKER_01And if I could sit on a beach with a margarita and just say, you're gonna have a license.
SPEAKER_03Ten songs a day or five songs a day, like millions.
SPEAKER_01Totally. You could kind of m go full monk with it and just go sit out in the woods, crisscross applesauce, and just think, you know. I don't know. Sounds fun. I think that's a very extreme example of you know the way it's actually.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure people do it though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. A lot of great writers. I'm a huge I love the song writers. I always you have a favorite writer right now for writing, rest in peace, Dolly Parton. I'm such a huge Dolly Parton fan. You know, she was my first song I ever sang on a stage was a Dolly Parton song. No way. Which one? Light of a clear blue morning. It was an a cappella with a choir and stuff. It was cool.
SPEAKER_03Did you ever go to Dollywood?
SPEAKER_01No, I was just wondering. No, that would be a that would be a really I wanna I really want to go to a new truck stop. She got a big gold truck stop out in like Bucky's or something? Yeah, it's like Bucky's, but it says Dolly's. Yeah, Dolly's. Yeah, I just found out about it like right after she passed away. That's crazy. Yeah, but Blake Pendergrass is really great. He writes a lot of that pop country stuff you know that Morgan Wallins been doing, and he's been doing stuff with Ernest. I love uh, I mean, Ernest is great, Hardy's awesome. Those are like really, really big guys, but um, I get a lot of inspiration from Willie Nelson. I don't implement it as much in this season, but I I definitely have like my seasons where I'm like, oh, I just I'm super on I'm on a big Willie Nelson kick. You know, I I've always been a really big fan of Willie Nelson. Um, what are some other writers? There's a guy named Tyler Farr who's really, really good. Um, I just heard about him, but I've liked what he's made. Um yeah, I have a huge appreciation for like writers. Miranda Lambert. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's really good. She just she just hit 20 weeks in a row at number one with Choosing Texas. You know what I mean? That one that one song. I didn't know that. Yeah. She was a co-writer on it. 20 weeks? 20 weeks, yeah. Broke the record last week. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03She's been up there 20 weeks. Wow.
SPEAKER_01I know. So I I don't know. I I like kind of the writing scene and stuff like that. I think it's super cool. There's obviously so many other great writers. So the writing attracts you more than the performance? I mean, now that my voice is all gone and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Probably more so even now.
SPEAKER_01I'm joking. But um, yeah, I I don't know. I really love writing. Um, you know, if God has different plans for me, you know, I totally would obviously do that, but I don't really want to think that big, you know. Not I don't want to think about, you know, who is God kind of called you to be. Just do it, you know? Yeah. Just act and behave the way that He wants you to and walk in His will. Yeah, just walk at His will. Yeah, I I've gotten really, really present in the last year. That's good. Yeah, totally. Um That's what you can't think two steps ahead and expect yourself to go write a song. You gotta be like super present. You know, you gotta put the blinders on and just Yeah, sit down, do the work. Force yourself to write sometimes too, you know. Um I like do the challenges, like write a song in ten minutes, see what comes out. You know what I mean? Yeah, and just sit down and force yourself to write. I write, I start the day.
SPEAKER_03You challenge yourself to get better.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I do I write down five titles every single morning. No, yeah, I have a little notebook. I forgot it, but I I I feel like that's a good way to warm my brain up. I saw somebody on Instagram that does that, and I feel like that's something that I that I just implemented not too long ago. And some crazy songs have come out of that. I I've got like maybe two or three that I could think of off the top of my head that I I was like, yo, that's a killer tune right there. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, some of them are very interesting titles that I would never expect to hear, but they something does come out. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03That's what happens with my titles too. Yeah, like my titles, they're they're very interesting, but it's like some things at 2 a.m., you know, are are very creative and different than 2 p.m. Yeah. Yeah, 2 a 2 a.m. Um, yeah, totally. Yeah, you just get less, I think, interruptions and stuff like that. You can focus a lot differently at night than you can during the daytime.
SPEAKER_01I'm very rarely up till 2 a.m.
SPEAKER_03No, but I'm just saying that's why a lot of my creativity usually happens. It might be because I have kids and stuff, so it's usually when the house is all nice and quiet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. Um, well, as a dad, you don't want to be up till 2 a.m. for the wrong reasons. You know, kids are crying.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes you're up either way, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I would say it's usually like a morning thing and like a Saturday thing. I think I do most of my like intense writing on Saturdays, on like on weekends, and yeah, surprisingly, mornings. Wow. Yeah. Even during work, like when I should be really focused on work, like sometimes I get ideas and stuff. Don't tell my boss I said that.
SPEAKER_03But they're not listening. Not yet. So um so I heard you might be uh you're in Washington currently, but you might be coming back to to Arizona. What's going on?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I'm taking steps to hopefully move back in like the next two or three months. I'm gonna get a place down here, I'm gonna convert it into a a studio. Ooh. And uh we're just gonna Ryan and I are just gonna rapid fire. You know what I mean? I'm really pumped for that. You know, I miss life down in Phoenix a lot. I I love I love it down here. And I feel like I had to go back there to kind of realize that, you know, even though there isn't too much grass down here, it's a little But I mean the grass is always greener. I love being home for for other reasons. Other reasons. Yeah, and I love it too, in a lot of ways. But I think that in order to fully spread your wings, you gotta go back to where your wings were spread the last time you did it. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03And you don't know what you have until it's gone, and then you're like, oh, that's what I need. That's what I totally, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. And I mean, I think my my family's in alignment of it too. Um, so yeah, that'll probably be where it goes. I'd love my dream one day, I would love to move to Nashville one day.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, yeah. For for what, just the scenery or like the music industry or the totally. I don't know if I'd be a a Broadway musician, but I think I definitely there's a lot of people in Nashville that has musician skills, like the people at Waffle House can sing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, you'll be at Waffle House, and next thing you know, there's literally live music there. Yeah. I think that I really want to move to Nashville because I have a good songwriting kind of environment. But I'm just finding out that Arizona's got that too. Like I think it's called the Arizona Songwriting Association or something. A Z W S W A or something like that. Yeah. I just learned about it. And you know, there there have been some people that have gotten cuts from it and stuff. So that's cool. Yeah, just take the steps necessary and follow your heart.
SPEAKER_03Did you miss the Arizona heat? No, not at all. Did you miss the Washington snow? No. Or the rain. Or the rain? Yeah. You guys don't get much snow up there, do you?
SPEAKER_01No. We got a little bit of snow last year. Very random. We had just gotten like it had hadn't snowed all year, and then out of nowhere we just get uh like eight inches of snow and then it melted the next day. Oh wow. Turned into water. At least the grass was green the next day, though.
SPEAKER_02I have a question for you. Um I think I know the answer, but um you can expound on it. Um so as I gather your s you write music and you perform music, but you're not getting monetized from it. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_01Not yet. At one point I it I was not like my stuff on Spotify, but just like in the music and in the music industry down here in in uh like Phoenix and Scottsdale for sure. Um but I'd love to head in that direction. Yeah, I think that's what Ryan and I want to end up.
SPEAKER_03So that's what you're trying to build is your brand to start getting monetized for your your work. 100%. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So do you make an album and release it or do you release singles, or how does that work? I don't I'm not real familiar with the music industry.
SPEAKER_01No, totally. I think that what we've got planned um and kind of the direction that Ryan and I are going right now, is we're gonna put out four of these really upbeat singles that I'd written. And then um I feel like upbeat music always gets a lot of good you know, traction. Yeah. Maybe maybe throw in a couple slower pieces to create some contrast, but um, I would hopefully go into creating maybe like uh an album with maybe sixteen to twenty four songs on it. You know, I we have the we have the material, you know. It just takes so much time to write us even ri make a song, you know.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, and then you gotta do all the tracks, right? Exactly. Like, you know, what eight to twelve, sixteen or however many you have. That's a lot of tracks.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. What's the most tracks you put in a song?
SPEAKER_01Um, most tracks was Q the Moon. I think it had a sort of that's what I thought you were there too. Yeah, yeah, you know that song. I think that song has 154 tracks on it. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_02I didn't think that was even possible. Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_03But try to manage that in timing.
SPEAKER_01The song was a monster. We'll probably do a side little thing with that song too, because um one of my friends that I had written it with down here, we had put probably 10 songs together, and uh I'd like to do stuff with him and get some get some music out on like a side project that's like kind of you know beachy.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna ask you that. Do you like to collaborate with other artists or do you like to usually because some artists just like to stay in their own lane and like to do their own thing? And some artists like to collaborate with others and you know, see what the other person, you know, how you guys can make art together. What what do you prefer?
SPEAKER_01I I I really love collaborating. That's something that I think I need to get better at doing in like reaching out to people to collaborate on writing. Um yeah, I think that's a s a really good tool to have in your belt. It's like two minds are always better than one. Oh, yeah. Um so that's something I want to actually get better at. I've thought about that too. I mentioned the Songwriters Association out here. I'd love to explore what that looks like to to get in and meet some other writers in the community. I don't know, I like country music so much, so you gotta find the right people too. Yeah. Um you gotta really bond and gel with them on a certain level to make that magic. Oh, totally. 100%.
SPEAKER_02I have something here uh that will be I'm hoping it will be of interest to both of you. I'm always surprising Jakers with information about me that he doesn't know.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, he's had like 10 different lifetimes. He has a time machine, he's lived 300 years, like this guy is full of it over here.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, you you were just in a good way. Anyway, you were just talking about country music, and on your previous episode, you were talking about all the types of music that you do and you're interested in and you're into. Okay, so I have a piece of information here that will surprise both of you. I have a nephew. His name is Brian, and he's Dale's youngest brother. You know Dale, Jakers.
SPEAKER_03Yes, Dale is a big fan of the show, and he actually writes um like fan mail on the on our website, so people can go and check that out.
SPEAKER_02And Brian is Dale's youngest brother. And Brian is part of an outlaw country group, and in 2024, they got, I believe it's the Josie Award, and they were awarded the best outlaw country band for the year. And there, I'm gonna give them a shout-out now. Their their name is Last Trained A War Az, and they they go around the country. He lives on a on a R V and they they just tour the country and and perform. And so um I I feel honored that I'm related to him, and he's well known. He's he's the drummer and of the group, and um they just they just do that. And you had mentioned outlaw country and on your previous episode, so I just thought, well, I know outlaw country here, so I'll just mention that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. Yeah, I love it. I one thing I love about outlaw country too, is that I don't think outlaw country comes from a place of like what outlaw means. I think what outlaw country is is just you doing it your way and you don't do it anybody else's way. Like Willie Nelson and David Allan Coe, um, all those guys, they were told to do something else and they did whatever they wanted to do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I never knew the definition of what outlaw country was, so I it's yeah, I never knew what that was.
SPEAKER_01At least that's my definition of outlaw country, is that it's just people doing whatever the heck they want to do, you know, and I I have a I have a lot of respect for that. Whelan Jennings. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was good music.
SPEAKER_01It was good music. Yeah, they're still putting stuff out, too, you know, from the grave, man. Like yeah, how's that happening? Like two fuck? Like Wayland Jennings on I think it was June 21st, he put out a song called Diamonds, and we're still getting like music that was made and recorded in the 90s, never released. Isn't that amazing? Oh my gosh. This song Diamonds is probably one of my favorite songs right now. So good.
SPEAKER_03I'll have to check it out.
SPEAKER_01Doesn't sound like them at all. It's like a rock song, it's like it's so sick. It's so sick. If you if you haven't heard the song, I'm I'm a huge advocate for these guys, too.
SPEAKER_02So well then you know, but take a cue and leave a lot of tracks behind when you go so that you can make money later or something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. For the late for the label.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because a lot of those people don't didn't own their music back then. That's that was the oh they didn't.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh, that's sad. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm not sure about those guys because a lot of them, though they had labels, their labels tried telling them to do it one way. Like one thing that Wayland Jennings and Willie Nelson and David Allen Coe are like really, really famous for was like people telling them to do it a certain way, and they would just go do it their own way, and they did not care at all. I respect that. I respect that. Okay. Redheaded Stranger. I don't know if you've ever heard of that album. It's old, I think it's 1973. Um Willie ended up, he made it for a movie, and then his label tried telling him to do it, try tried getting somebody else to play the red-headed stranger, but Willie Nelson was like, nah, I want to play the redheaded stranger. So I'm pretty sure he went off and funded the whole project on his own. Oh wow. Yeah, just so he could be the lead actor. Yeah. And it was such a good movie, too. Those guys are such good actors. Willie, Whalen. Um What movie's that? Redheaded Stranger. That's the movie, that's what it's called.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow. I thought that was the song.
SPEAKER_01There's another good one. It's called Stagecoach with Chris Christofferson.
SPEAKER_03I think I heard of that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, one of the greatest, you know, classic country writers of all time. Um, yeah, and him, Waylon Jennings was in it. Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. Everybody loves Johnny Cash. Johnny. He was in it. The man in black. Those guys, yeah, and they're killer actors. Oh, yeah. Absolute killer actors. They're good. They're not like cheesy or anything, they're good actors.
SPEAKER_03Did you uh see the Johnny Cash movie? Obviously.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I did. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You liked it?
SPEAKER_01I really did like it. I really liked it a lot. I think that um are you talking about the old one?
SPEAKER_03No, I'm talking about the newer one. The newer one in color. Not new. I think it came out like what, 10 years ago or something like that. Something like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think so. It's where like his son his little brother dies in the movie or in the beginning or something like that.
SPEAKER_03I don't remember that part.
SPEAKER_01Now you're asking me something. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03But I know that famous blonde girl was in it. Um, June? Yeah. June Carter. But not June Carter. It was it was the it was the actress that was playing her. Oh, I can't remember. I know her. She's not Melissa Jones. She's uh anyways. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Oh, what was the name of that second movie you mentioned?
SPEAKER_01Oh, um, so there's Redheaded Stranger and Stagecoach. Oh, Stagecoach. Stagecoach isn't known for the music. Redheaded Stranger is. Okay. The whole album is beautiful, very classic, so it might not be your taste, but it's my take. I love it. I listened to the whole thing on an airplane too. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03So uh obviously I'm getting a little older, my timeline was off. But uh the Johnny Cash movie that I was referring to is Walk the Line. It came out in 2005. Oh, yeah, yeah, I knew it. I knew it was 2005, and um it has Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Ritherspoon. That's who I was trying to think of in the screen.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it had Ree it had Reese Witherspoon.
SPEAKER_03Reese was no way Reese was the girl.
SPEAKER_01That's why I was like, yo, I have a I have a huge crutch on Reese Witherspoon. Go go watch that movie again.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's I mean, I I was like, no way that they put her in there, but yeah, it was it was a great movie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love I love Reese. I she kind of looks like a female version of me sometimes. At least that's people have told me that before. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03TMI. Now I'm not gonna look at her the same. Thanks, Hunter.
SPEAKER_00Hey, we're all we're all dudes here. We could we could be dudes.
SPEAKER_03That's Mrs. Hunter with a spoon. No, dude, she's good. She is. I liked her. So you wanna play anything? Um I'm not trying to put you on spot. I'm just no totally.
SPEAKER_01I'm here for it.
SPEAKER_03I don't want you to run out of time.
SPEAKER_01Strings attached. I put um this is this is another, maybe not something so fast paced. Did I play something fast paced? Here, this one's a little bit. I just came up with this. Here, let's take this off really quick. Yeah, this one's called Me from Adam. This is like one of those titles that just kind of jumped out of nowhere, you know? Yeah, that's how that goes in one way or another. That was awesome. Yeah, it's a little it's like a fast pace. I love it, and it's got this cool guitar. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of work that needs to be done. And then I was gonna add in this uh the super fast. See how I didn't know how this was gonna go, but I had the idea.
SPEAKER_03No way to lay that in. Oh, that's beautiful. I like that.
SPEAKER_01It would have to be even faster.
SPEAKER_03It would have to go like to be on par. You gotta get the BPMs or something.
SPEAKER_01Oh, totally. Yeah, I got I have to. But I don't know. I just came up with that like two weeks ago. Um that's that's a random song. This one came out of well, I came up with this back in February. This is a this is like a big priority. This is on the priority list for Ryan and I. Um, it's called I Don't Know You Anymore. It's totally like you'll you'll get the whole point of it. Um, how does this go? How does this song go?
SPEAKER_03Are you asking me? I can tell you.
SPEAKER_00How does the song go? It's uh um one, two. When we caught upon the sun, it starts to seem a little different. It'll seem like you feed your egg and it's feeling like you used to. It's everything. Up to you, and even more than two. I'll just find it over here. I don't know you anymore. I don't really want to.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Yeah, it's it's got that upbeat. I think I I'm a little excited, so I'm playing it pretty fast, but that's fun.
SPEAKER_03Dude, that sounds freaking awesome.
SPEAKER_01And then there's other ones that are so much slower. I put this together. Oh, from this chord progression. Listen to this chord progression, it's crazy. Uh it's not gonna let's put it down a notch, just be nice to me. This is once upon a gift.
SPEAKER_00Till I heard this pretty melody. And it was bittersweet. Then I fell down when I heard this woman sing. I'm a sucker for when the clouds rolled back. The sun came out when I asked her to play. Then the tide came up, and then the ships came in till then I never ever made a banks upon a gibbist, some reports the stories of a broken heart. So broken baby feel that's me a guitar. How in the hell? What may you did you do to be to be the blue? Then it's like I hadn't had a spook for like eight straight Sundays till I heard she drinks too much at gigs.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, I like that. I love that. I was in awe. I'm over here looking at all the sound waves. I'm like, this is magical.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we gotta turn this guy down. No, we don't. No, I'm playing. Um, yeah, I can't I cannot wait till everything's all back and you know my voice is all like a hundred percent good again.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean? Even though you're going through this little trial, man, you sound great. You really do. And I think that I think that God's gonna I think God's gonna bring you out of this and you're gonna look back at this and you know, it all glory is gonna be to him. I mean, like it like it always is, and it's just gonna be one of those special times in your life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I've always just like I've always been such a you know, when it comes to Christianity and being a Christian, I've always been really spiritual and I think a lot about God. Even though sometimes we're not, you know, we're definitely not perfect and I have my shortcomings and everybody. Of course, yeah, we all do. Everybody does. But um I've always had like a lot of God on my mind. I'm always thinking about like, you know, when is Satan gonna come at me with a leg sweep and try to kick my feet out from underneath me? You know what I mean? Pull the rug out. Yeah, what what what's he gonna do too? And I thought about it, I was like, oh, the very thing that God wants me to use the most of, you know, the enemy's trying to take that away. Look at that. So powerful. I don't know. I maybe I'll be that's powerful though. Yeah, you d yeah, totally. Yeah, I guess I'm being 100% legit, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Um that could be coincidence, but that could be spot on. Like I think that you know, the the things that you're doing with your life right now and and the way that you give praise to God, I mean that would be a a sure sign that the enemy would want to attack that. But I mean, you know, we we never know, you know. We we f we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but I mean powers and principalities. Exactly. There's some things out there that we might not fully understand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm reading Wild at Heart by John Eldridge. Have you heard of that?
SPEAKER_03I've heard John Eldridge, but I don't think Wild at Heart.
SPEAKER_01It's a it's uh I I think that's what his name is. I just got the book. No worries.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I yeah, I'll have to look up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I put it's uh I just I have I have only read like the first chapter, but um I just got the book like three days ago. I got it, so I had something to do and you know nobody was back at the the place that I was staying at, you know, because I'm staying with the boys and stuff. And uh when people are working and stuff and I want something to do, just sit down and write or read, you know, and write, I guess. So have you checked it out at all? Do you know anything about it? Not too much. It's all about just being like really, really on fire and like excited about following God, because I feel like for a while I was kind of drifting away in some ways. Like not remember how I wrote Who Should Come First Goes Last? Yeah. You know exactly where that at least the title comes from. It comes from like you feeling like you put Jesus in the back for a little bit, and uh I got I read uh you know the disciplines of a godly man. That was a really good book I just read. I forget who wrote that. I read um how to outwit the devil. It was really good. It's a definitive that's a good book. But I I think it's a little less it's not very modern. I guess it it it has some points in it I thought were pretty interesting. But you know, you get you just hold extract the lesson, I guess. So yeah, we're just trying to my big my big goal is like what can I do to you know keep God in the front, put him in the let him do his thing.
SPEAKER_03Keep him in focus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. Exactly. You got hunter in one of those seasons, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03That's good. I mean, we're all in different chapters and different seasons. I mean, like I've said to Ray before, I mean we're all going through this together. We're we're in the same boat with different waves and different seasons and stuff, but I mean, we're all human. We're none of us are perfect, and we're all gonna get through this together too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally, man. And I think that uh just I don't know, man. I think about God a lot. Like, what the what are you doing up there? What are you doing up there? That's a good thing to think about. Yeah, totally. I like talking about God.
SPEAKER_03So I got uh on a lighter note, I got I got a little d guitar joke for you. Oh, that's hearing. So when I was a kid, I I wanted to play the guitar very, very badly. But you know, now as an adult, I really do play the guitar very, very badly.
SPEAKER_00I have not thought about that one yet. That's a good idea. Did you come up with that yourself? I did. Are you serious? Yeah, just for you.
SPEAKER_01I love that. Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's great. Ray has a joke over there.
SPEAKER_03No, Ray, uh Ray's creative a different way. He wrote you. Do you know what a limerick is? No. Explain it, Ray.
SPEAKER_02A limerick is a uh five-line poem. The first two lines rhyme, the second two lines have a different rhyme, and then the last line rhymes with the first two.
SPEAKER_03He's been very creative, and all the last few guests that we've had the last few months, he's been writing original limericks just for them. Yo. So he wrote one for me, he wrote one for him, he's wrote one for Stephanie, for Christine. Yeah, he's written one for a lot of people. So you are next Ronnie, Ronnie, you got Ronnie. Yeah, I wrote three for Ronnie. And uh, so yeah, Hunter, this is your limericks. Enjoy it.
SPEAKER_02Let's hear it. I wrote uh two for you. And and the first line's always easiest to write. Uh-huh. And then after that, you kind of gotta watch your your your meter and you gotta watch the the rhyming and all this. And it all depends on the person's name. Now, yesterday I had PT and uh the one of the guys that was helping.
SPEAKER_03Physical therapy?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, physical therapy. His name was Felix. So I told him, I said, I'm gonna have to write you at Limerick, but that's gonna be hard because not much rhyme. But I went home and wrote him too. So uh anyway, I got it anyway. I did.
SPEAKER_03So we're hearing Felix or Hunter?
SPEAKER_02No, we're doing Hunter. I just had that was just in a little aside. Okay. There was a young fellow named Hunter, who in baseball was quite a good punter. He gave a big cough, then he hit the ball soft, which brought home all three runners.
SPEAKER_01Oh I love it. I love it. Yeah, like the like how you sit, you you softly hit the ball and no the rhyme scheme is is uh very clever.
SPEAKER_02It's uh yeah, that's how that's how they were.
SPEAKER_01I was thinking about have I ever written a limerick by accident before? Probably not.
SPEAKER_03That's where your brain was because I can see you were like you're you're a deep thought over here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was like, did I? I was like, he's always writing limericks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, he is. I can see it now. Uh we're we're we're keeping with the sports theme. Okay. Okay, here we go. There was a young fellow named Hunter who played football as a great punter. He backed up a bit and gave a great kick, but the ball reversed and hit Hunter.
unknownOh no!
SPEAKER_01Oh, so you we're we I like the Hunter times two. Yeah. Do you have to reuse the first uh in a limerick? Do you have to reuse the I guess you don't have to do that?
SPEAKER_03Can it be similar or do you have to reuse the same exact first word and the last word?
SPEAKER_02No, no, it has to rhyme. But sometimes, you know, there's not much that rhymes with hunter. I looked it up. So there wasn't much to work with.
SPEAKER_01You could like use gutter, uh, you know, gutter. It's a great punter.
SPEAKER_02Went back and um Yeah, so we could reuse those, but uh yeah, sometimes I have to reuse the ones at the beginning because I can't find anything that that rhymes. Yeah. Anyway, so it's a little story that's with with humor.
SPEAKER_01So totally.
SPEAKER_03So you like the first one or the second one better?
SPEAKER_01Second one, because I I didn't expect the it went back and yeah, the ball to hit you. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like to put a little comic in there.
SPEAKER_03He likes it, he likes his name mentioned twice.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Hey, you know, you know, nobody likes their nobody likes any other word more than their own name. Wow.
SPEAKER_03Is that gonna be the the title of your whole album? It's just gonna be called Hunter.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's that's clear. I like that.
SPEAKER_01We're thinking, um, I mean, I don't want to like uh spoil much. Yeah, don't just bleep it out. Don't bleep it out. But uh I think is what we're gonna do. Yeah. Take that out, Ronnie. Anyway. Is Ronnie editing it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh Ronnie and I together, but I make little notes for him after I send it to him and stuff like that. How's he been doing? Um, you're thinking of Ronnie Sr. Ronnie the older guy? I believe so. Um so Ron Ronnie is head of uh production over at uh North Phoenix, and his son Ronnie Cash is also in production, but he helps me with the podcast. So Ronnie Cash is very musical. Look him up on Instagram. We give him a shout out at the end. Um he makes a lot of music, a lot of great music. He was actually he was actually our uh fourth um our in our first fourth episode, our second guest, but in our fourth episode, Ronnie Cash. He uh he makes a lot of great things. Um all of our little side music and stuff that we do in our show, it's all it's all comes from him. Tight. Super tight. So he's part of our team.
SPEAKER_02And he's done our uh artwork too.
SPEAKER_03Cool, cool. Yeah, this season's artwork. He he's been doing all that. Just I mean, he's he's magical. Everything he does. He was just in a movie recently, a little mo local movie that they didn't know that. Yeah, they're they're they're put out uh in Phoenix. It's about this um I don't want to give it away, but it's about this true story um event that happened. Oh, okay. And uh yeah, he was he was the star of the show. Oh wow. But yeah, Ronnie Cash. He uh he he works on here. He he he helps me out a lot, he makes us look good. Oh that's his job, right? Uh I mean, it's not his job, job. I don't want to like make it sound like he has to, he doesn't have to do anything, but yes, he he uh he he really helps us. I I think I was talking to Ray. I mean this can all be offline conversation at this particular moment, but I was talking to Ray the other day, and the way that we formatted our show, the way that Ray has his fingerprints on it, I have my fingerprints on it, Ronnie has his fingerprints on it. We all have made it into such a thing that I think that without one of us it wouldn't be the same. Like we yeah, we could do it differently, but it wouldn't be the same as what we have right now. Like, you know, every restaurant has a hamburger, but every hamburger tastes different in every restaurant. And so our particular hamburger tastes good right now because all the particular hands is making it. And I really, I really appreciate that. Like I know that I can't say that enough, but I really appreciate it. I think I think that hopefully God will provide and help us monetize so we can, you know, start getting paid for our gifts over here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I mean, at the end of the day, we're all just burgers. We're just burgers. At the end of the day, we're all just burgers.
SPEAKER_03Every restaurant has a hamburger, but they all taste different.
SPEAKER_02And have you heard how this thing got started? It's an interesting story.
SPEAKER_00Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_02Um Well, Jenkins and I were in production. We were in the sound booth all the time, you know. Uh-huh. And we just banter back and forth. We've known each other for several years, and we just banter back and forth. Well, one Sunday morning we were in there talking like we were, and um Ronnie Sr. came in and he was laughing. He said, You two should have a show. Ha ha ha. And we just, you know, we just blew it off and laughed at him and said, You're crazy. And then about a year later, we were in the booth again on a Sunday morning doing the same thing. And Ronnie came in and said, Oh, you two should have a show.
SPEAKER_03Because we just banter back and forth.
SPEAKER_02That's all we do, just like we do here.
SPEAKER_03I can cut Ray down, he cuts me down, and we don't take it personal. We know that that was funny. That was a good funny joke, and don't take it personal. Like we that's just the way we banter. Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_02And we and and so um Jakers took it seriously and he began to think about it, and he said, You want to do a podcast? And I said, No, no, because I I have no talent. I I can't do you know, I can't do anything. I I'm no but he talked me into it, and now I don't want to quit. I just I just enjoy it so much and looking up material and bringing in stories and um we work well together, and I I just I just love it. And it I give him credit all the time for doing that because he forced me into it, but I love it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_02And that's how it was by accident.
SPEAKER_03We we didn't plan it, it just I try to make it a community thing. So even though my name's on the show, I try to make it, you know, not necessarily I mean, obviously it's revolves around my personality, but I try to make it about everybody. Like we're not gonna just talk about me and Ray all the time. We're gonna have Christine on, talk about this, we're gonna have Hunter on, we're gonna have Ronnie on, we're gonna have all these people. We had this lady on who um talked about her experiences uh raising her autistic children. Oh, wow. Like it was really, really like I I know nothing about anything like that. And just to hear that stuff that she has to go through.
SPEAKER_02And a doctor that we know from church, we had her on here too.
SPEAKER_03Another, another doctor, another dentist is getting ready to come on here that's never been on here. Um we've had yeah, we've had so many different magical moments of people telling their testimonies and miracles. And yeah, yeah, just you you uh I told I was talking to you one time about my hearing. Yes, and my hearing, you know, I that I covered that in episode 19. Um that was the episode with you, but the actual miracles episode, episode 13, is when we dove deep. Uh no, uh, it was Terry and Ray, my mom and Ray. And we we talked about miracles in that one, and then there was another semi-base uh episode like that. It was called um Marvelous Work Marvelous Wonder.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we did that for Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_03And that was this other lady who went through a lot of um like transplant issues, like life-saving transplant issues, and she wouldn't be here today without all these like miracles from God and people had to die for her to live. And wow, yeah. She shares her story. I'm like so the fact that we get a share and do all this stuff, and it's almost like a time capsule. We can record this and and and keep it, and then if anybody wants to anybody wants to know about Christine's story, she doesn't have to keep ripping that scar open and telling people her story. She can just be like, Oh, go listen to this episode, you know, yeah, share it all. And so it's just really cool how we can like almost like a time capsule, it's yeah, it's preserved there for everybody. And yeah, even like my kids, uh Asher, I put him in a couple episodes and stuff. Every once in a while, he'll say something like uh uh for Father's Day, he was like, Happy, happy Father's Day, Dad, I love you. And the fact that you can record stuff like that, and then you're always gonna hear him at that little three-year-old age. He's gonna be 15 and still hear him at three years old, you know. Uh the happy happy Father's Day dad. It's it's just so cute to capture all that. But yeah, totally. I'm not trying to go on and on and on about what we do, but we're proud of what we do over here.
SPEAKER_01I love it. I think it's so cool. I think it's rad. I love doing it too. I just you're always welcome. Oh, I'm you can have me on for an entire season. Entire season. You heard that radio fire. Yeah, I heard that. Thank you. Yeah, I I still got some time too.
SPEAKER_03So, whatever you want to cover and share before um before we do wrap up. I mean, sure. I hate wrapping up, man. It's your uh podcast episode, Hunter, and we're just so proud and happy that you uh you took the time to be here with us.
SPEAKER_01Dude, I'm just I'm excited for like this campaign for the song that we're gonna do, leaving it in yesterday. I can't wait for it. I'm very pumped. I I hate that I shared two two uh three other songs I plan on releasing in the next like six months, but I don't even care. I I've done it already online anyway. You know, just the same style where you just pick up the guitar and you share it. Um or you can cover old stuff that you've already put out or whatever.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you can whatever you want.
SPEAKER_01So I did I I love how current my music has been ri recently. You know? Some of it is a little outdated in the sense like you know, I made the song like a year ago. Some of it's not super outdated, and I made it like a couple weeks ago. I I guess I just bring it up to emphasize that everything's so different. This one, like this is I can't figure out how this song goes. Like, if you wanted to write it with me, you can. But like, these ideas just come out of nowhere. Like here it goes.
SPEAKER_00Off the beaten path, there's a water tower. Tuck by the sticks and the cuts who finds. If you smell a bonfire, you finally found it. Just spring beer for a county like the time. Oh god, I love it.
SPEAKER_01And then it goes into I like that beat. No way. No, no, not actually whistling, but I love it.
SPEAKER_03It goes into like Dude, if it did, that'd be great.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I like the whistle part.
SPEAKER_01It's kinda I I had the idea, but there's like this crazy fast part. I I had the idea of taking fishing in the dark and Dixieland Delight and making him have a baby. Do you know that song? You know those songs, but this sounds interesting. Oh my gosh. I had the idea because you know, there's this in Okay. I love that. Isn't that great? Yeah. No one ever does that. You know what I mean? That sounds really cool. And it goes into this. This has this is so original, man. I was just like sitting down, just screwing around with that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that added a different layer. I like that. Oh my goodness. Isn't that rad? Um I could picture that like on an intro to a movie or a show or something like that. Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the whole intro. Dude, it speeds up to kind of like Dixie Land Delight. It's where it's like it goes when the whipper will cough from when it goes, the whipper will cough from my back in the flowers.
SPEAKER_00Full moon hung at the mid hour. I found her zipping. She found mine when she kissed me on the cheek underneath the water tower.
SPEAKER_02That's a great song. I like that. I'm telling you. Hunter's got the sauce.
SPEAKER_00It's so fun, dude.
SPEAKER_04Hunter's got the sauce.
SPEAKER_01Hunter's got the sauce. So these ideas are so incomplete at the same time. Like, that's just how songwriting is. I've definitely finished a lot, but I think some of my best ideas haven't even been finished yet. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um the best is yet to come. And the thing you have to do is you just gotta sit yourself, you have to force, don't force the song, but force yourself to write, and then eventually, like it'll come right out of you in no time. Just with time and a good producer, you know, like Ryan. Just like he he's all he's always giving me new perspective. That idea that I showed you in the end of leaving it in yesterday. Yeah. Like the like the 2009 pop, like the at the end of it. That was all Ryan's idea. I would have never thought to use that. He put that in there, and I was like, yo, that's such a good idea. So I guess like it was.
SPEAKER_03That gave a whole different feel for sure. Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_01It turned it took it from like a pop song. Yeah. And I sung it very poppy too. But it took it and made it like even more poppy, you know, and it felt kind of remixy in a way. I just like that kind of sound and like that idea and love his ideas. And yeah. So I guess that this is just like the beginning of a new project that's gonna be very long term. So the song Leaving It in Yesterday is like it's gonna be a big it's gonna be a fun one. It's a big one.
SPEAKER_03I can't wait for it. It sounds exciting. There's a there's a lot behind it. And you didn't even share all of it, so I I can't wait to hear it. Oh, totally. Well, you you can hear it now. So I know I can, but I I mean publicly, I I can't put that out there like that. No, for sure. For sure. Yeah, I can't wait for this to end so I can actually check it out.
SPEAKER_01I know, yeah. Unofficially. And I just I don't know, these random little things keep coming up. I think I shared Job on the last. Yeah, I love that song. That one was so raw too, because I wrote it for my friend who was going through a pretty tough time in a relationship. And you know, the songs just kind of manifest themselves, and you're like, oh my gosh, how did this end up going down? I like these uh songs that come up out of nowhere, just like the most random stories that just manifested themselves in my life, and I'm like, wow. Hey there, what's up, song? You know what I'm saying? I didn't I didn't know that you'd come around, you know what I'm saying? I didn't mean to sound like that when I said that, but no, that's that was great.
SPEAKER_03Like they're different um times and trials and and experiences and uh seasons in your life that you're you're capturing it and oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Some of them are happy too, some of them are so super happy. Like I there's uh here I'll do a really quick beginning part.
SPEAKER_00It's easy to say. You bring the light into the dark, you make it day.
SPEAKER_01You know, that song will come up one day and I'm gonna be like, Oh, I know exactly why I wrote that. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, totally. I'm I um I don't know, the song songwriting's funny, it's all super deep, you know, and there's a lot of a lot of depth to it.
SPEAKER_03There's a lot of emotions behind it, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. But you can't always write from a place of emotions because like if you're forcing emotions to like write, that can that can be not good. I saw somebody talk about that on like a reel the other day. It's like you cannot force yourself to live in these terrible you can't force yourself to write from a place of emotion and force yourself to have bad emotions all the time. That's just not healthy. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03That's we were talking about that earlier, about staying in that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. Dude, I've been I've been happy, bro. Life's life's good, man. So um that's good to hear, dude. Yeah, yeah, totally. I had a weird weird season like last year going into this year, but like, dude, we're rocking and rolling. Life's good, man. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Life is good.
SPEAKER_01Dude, the sun kind of came out at one point and I was like, oh Jesus, you know?
SPEAKER_03You heard the heavenly sound.
SPEAKER_02I have a question. Yeah, totally. It hit me while you were playing that. It's like, I know you wrote the song, the music, and I know you wrote the word. But how you can just sit down and play it and sing it from memory. It's like, no, I'd have to have music in front of me. I I couldn't even though I wrote it and everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because you must know h hundreds of songs in your mind like that, and you just sit down and play it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I guess like I um I should have remembered all the lyrics on. I didn't every once in a while, you know, you forget one lyric and stuff. Like I haven't practiced that song in a while and stuff. I haven't pulled that one out of the of the toolbox in a while. But um, yeah, I I love just I could that's the thing that's kind of cool. Is like we have events back in town. I can go up and if there's a certain vibe that the crowd's kind of going for, like, I know I've got something in my toolbox. Like I've got something in my in my I don't want to say portfolio, maybe just like kind of my you know, song list that I have. There's something for it. Like if you're in a rock crowd, I'm playing underrated. Or if I'm at a a worship crowd, I'm playing a song that I wrote um called like come and see. You know what I mean? Or if I'm playing at a, you know, a honky talk bar, I'm playing like whatever, like that didn't go with how did that go?
SPEAKER_02You get the point. Oh, I don't know that. You could just you could just that's great music. I like that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean it's yeah, no, you just kind of pull out random little things. They come up like stick with the rock stuff, you know, campfire.
SPEAKER_03You can just kind of having fun with you guys. So so anyway, any other musicians in your family? Like uh who who kind of might inspired you or or or you know, you told me a little bit about you know growing up and and the guitar, but you want to get into that?
SPEAKER_01I think growing up playing rock band kind of kickstarted everything. Yeah, I found a YouTube channel that's never going to be disclosed to anybody where I'm doing cover I'm doing covers on my French horn and original songs on my French horn. Um that's so random. Isn't that just random stuff? It just you know, like I don't know. I just started doing music and never stopped. So anybody in your family? Oh Peter, my brother, he raps. He's a really good rapper. Um yeah, he's got like 50, 60 songs out on Spotify, probably. At least I think he did. I think he said he was gonna take some of them down, but I can't really remember. What's his handle? Pete. P-E-E-T. Just Pete on Spotify? Yeah, pull up Pete on Spotify. Pete Pete is definitely a different flavor, but I just it's so good when you hear it. Just Pete. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's a good rapper. He's got a good sense of rhythm and rhyme scheme and wordplay and all that stuff. Um Do you guys ever collaborate?
SPEAKER_03Would you do like a rock hip hop song?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we had an idea about like somebody going back and forth, talking about like I'm trying to convince him that Jesus is real, and he's like, nah, man, not man, and then at the end of the story it kind of all ties back together. That's cool. Yeah, we we had an idea like that. My dad was in a band growing up, he was always into punk rock. I grew up on a lot of punk, like skate punk, and then that kind of took everything towards the guitar, and then yeah, just kept on doing that. I wrote my very first song when I was like 11, and it's really, really bad. Um Hey, we grow from that. I forget how it goes. It's like something something about you, even if you gave a who. When I see that smile, it's worth my while. You know what I mean? It's like 20. That was like 14 years ago. Maybe longer. How old was I? 14 years ago, 11. About 11. Yeah. So probably about 14 years ago. You just keep doing it and doing it and doing it and see where it takes you. You know? Yeah. Yeah. That's really cool. I'm I'm so glad that that this happened, and I got to come and hang out with you guys. You guys are the best.
SPEAKER_03Thank you. You've been missed. You're the best too. I mean, you're you're really, really talented, man. Like, don't let it go to your head, but God has really given you some great gifts, and you seem to be using them in great ways. So keep it up. We're proud of you, and you're always welcome back.
SPEAKER_01I'm down. Yeah, no, I love doing this. You guys are great too.
SPEAKER_03Season four is coming. We got some big plans. So if if you got if you got other plans, I mean we'll always have you back.
SPEAKER_01With a video camera.
SPEAKER_03We we might have to go to video in season four. We keep saying this, but Ray, Ray's got to get his warrant taken care of because he he doesn't want to go on camera. Look at that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I I threatened Drake or said if we go on video, I have to wear a disguise.
SPEAKER_03He doesn't really have a warrant. He wrote it I know. I was making it. I just went along with it.
SPEAKER_01I went along with it. So uh dude, thank you. Big time. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, you know, this has been very enjoyable. Very. Yeah. And I can't wait to do it again. But uh, this is your spotlight. You've had it before. Uh take 30 seconds to plug, whatever you want, your projects, your links, your family, your shout outs. Go for it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, pull me up on Spotify. If there's a chance it's a great song, I love that tune. Um underrated is a really fun one as well. Leaving it in yesterday, just keep up with that, you know? Like if you check out Hunter Ramstead and follow along the the next like six months, like momentum is gonna carry itself and I think cool things are gonna happen. Um yeah, my Instagram is just my name, Hunter Ramstead. TikTok, anything else, YouTube? Oh yeah, Hunter Ramstead. All right. Hunter Ramstead, Hunter Ramstead, Hunter Ramstead.
SPEAKER_03And your music, it's all on uh it's on Apple, Spotify, it's everywhere, or just Spotify? No, it's all it's all it's everywhere. Awesome. Hunter Ramsstead music.
SPEAKER_02Hit it, Ray. Well, folks, we don't want to string you along, so we're going to cut the strings on episode 46. Strings attached. We hope you enjoyed this episode, acoustically speaking.
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SPEAKER_03Remember, if you can't find the good, then be the good. Until next time, y'all. Peace. Peace. Peace. So long.
SPEAKER_02Bye.
SPEAKER_01What a fun episode.
SPEAKER_02That was fun.